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Bradford fire wants Alliston’s ‘Bat Girl’ to pay for broken truck
Posted June 29, 2009
An Alliston woman charged with mischief for climbing the Cookstown Outlet Mall’s water tower in April is facing about $50,000 in potential restitution costs, including a $36,921 bill by the Bradford fire department because the truck that responded to the call, broke down on the way back to the station.
Paulette MacDonald, dressed as Bat Girl, climbed the tower to draw attention to Parental Alienation Awareness Day, made a second court appearance last week, and learned from the Crown’s disclosure the total cost being sought by South Simcoe Police, Innisfil Fire, and Bradford Fire, is $48,944.
Ms. MacDonald had scaled the tower before sunrise, unfurled a banner supporting her cause, then spent several hours unnoticed before “I finally yelled down to a group of young ladies coming out of the mall and requested that she notify the mall security for me.”
Police were called, as were firefighters, first from Innisfil, but then Bradford for its aerial truck.
“When the fireman asked me to come down the ladder of the firetruck, I didn’t want to,” said Ms. MacDonald in a press release from the group Fathers 4 Justice (F4J). “I felt much safer getting back down the way I came up.”
The F4J has also weighed into the situation, suggesting that Bradford should thank “Bat Girl.”
“In my eyes, Ms. MacDonald should receive thanks for highlighting flaws in the fire department’s equipment before it was actually needed in an emergency,” said Kris Titus, F4J National Coordinator. “This might have more to do with the competence of their maintenance system than our featherweight superhero. We’re obviously glad that she was safe during the rescue, considering the circumstances.”
Ms. MacDonald is due back in Bradford court July 23.
Father and Murderer Leslie Schuler Didn’t Want to be a “Visitor” to His Child Anymore
Seven year-old Nathaniel Turner will be taken off of life support following a brutal father’s day beating by none other than his father. According to what I have gathered from the media, this case has many twists and turns–almost every one of them a relevant issue that I continuously write about…It is all very confusing but I’ll try to sort it out.
Father Leslie Schuler was an absent father who paid child support when he felt like it.
There was a paternity test–don’t know if the father initiated, or perhaps the mother was on government assistance and thus the Child Support Office would have surely gone after their money the money due to the child. After paternity was established, a child support order was issued.
At some time, the mother, Alicia Taylor, asked for child support to be increased whilst simultaneously, father Leslie Schuler asked for visitation. No mention if perhaps the Child Support Office or the local fatherhood groups/program put this nonsense (asking for visitation) into the father’s head (see The Purpose of Child Support Enforcement). And God knows how both the fatherhood groups and the Child Support Office target Black men. Oh, whoops, my bad, the Office of Child Support Enforcement (OCSE) and the fatherhood groups ARE THE SAME THING!!! (see The Office of Child Support Enforcement Wants to Promoted Both Agreed Upon Child Support Orders and Visitation Orders)
The judge denied the child support increase request and also the visitation request because a Department of Revenue (DOR= Child Support) lawyer told the judge that the mother didn’t have custody of the child. I have heard this same scenario repeated many times in my circles. Remember that when DOR comes into your case, you, the custodial parent, are no longer a party to what was originally your own case.
But the father didn’t have the child at that time either. It seems that the Nathaniel had been with his grandmother in Alabama because the mother had “mental problems.” Could her mental problems have been related to…um…maybe not having enough money to support her son…or…um. ..maybe.. .her history [of abuse] with the father of her child? I don’t know. Just speculating.
However, the father does have a “lengthy criminal record.”
But what does this mean?
According to the fresh U.S. Department of Justice Special Report: Practical Implications of Current Domestic Violence Research for Law Enforcement, Judges, and Prosecutors:
Most studies agree that the majority of domestic violence perpetrators that come to the attention of criminal justice or court authorities have a prior criminal history for a variety of nonviolent and violent offenses against males as well as females, and of a domestic or nondomestic nature.
…Similarly, 84.4 percent of men arrested for domestic violence in Massachusetts had
prior criminal records, averaging a little more than 13 prior charges (resulting from five to six arrests) — including four for property offenses, three for offenses against persons, three for major motor vehicle offenses, two for alcohol/drug offenses, one for public order violations, and 0.14 for sex offenses.
More eye opening, in light of the fact that many men are not charged or convicted (money and power)…you know, since “false allegations” are so prevalent:
Even if abusers have no prior arrest records, they may be known to local police..
Studies of abusers brought to court for protective orders find similarly high rates of criminal histories, ranging from slightly more than 70 percent in Texas to 80 percent in Massachusetts.
Anyway, moving forward, since most of the corruption is occurring with the law enforcement, judges, and prosecutors who don’t give a damn about the report…
Of course DCF is covering its ass saying that they investigate people before they give them custody. When the hell did they start doing that? And obviously, absent father Leslie Schuler wasn’t a part of this investigation.
And CPS won’t comment on whether they were previously involved with the family. Well, of course they won’t comment if there could be any possibility of negligence on their behalf. CPS, like DCF and DOR/CSE are all government entities.
Somehow, the grandmother is lead to believe that the father has court-ordered summer visitation with Nathaniel. She never sees an order, but want to be sure she is in compliance with the law. Grandmas don’t want to be caught up in no shit (ask Eddy Curry’s child’s grandmother). BUT, somehow, no one from the court can find any order granting custody or visitation to the father. WTF?
And so, the father gets his wish to “meet the child and build a relationship,” and while he is doing so, proceeds to emotionally and physically abuse his son Nathaniel who has ADD (which, by the way is an oh-so common condition that manifests itself during and after abuse). This ends in the father’s day demise of the young boy.
Father Leslie Schuler is originally charged with assault and battery. Additionally, his girlfriend, Tiffany Hyman, is charged with the same for failing-to-protect. There goes that infamous woman-only charge again. Failure-to-protect.
Now I have read the comments on the article and they really paint girlfriend Tiffany out to be a monster accomplice. I MAJORLY disagree, based on the little bit on info that we have so far.
Tiffany is 28 years old. Is she a mother also? Does it matter? Was she responsible for this child? If so, who made her responsible? And is she legally responsible?
I know no one wants to hear the “maybe she was a victim of abuse, too” argument, because society is woman-blaming. ..but I have to present this to you:
- Are we, as a society, saying that it is some random person’s responsibility to protect other people?
- Is it some random person’s responsibility to protect someone just because that person is a child? Or disabled? Or what?
- In which scenarios must we intervene? And who gets to decide if we properly intervened, or not?
- What about the risk to ourselves?
- Are we saying that every person is required by law to take on the hero/heroine/ shero role given some specific or non-specific situation?
This is major!!!
Unless Tiffany participated in the beating, I think it is insane to hold her accountable. We could have had two dead human beings.
Why don’t we hold Child Support, DCF and the legal system responsible?
And then, to top it off, bringing the child off of life support is now a public forum with the decision subject to a judge’s approval. Is this necessary? Can’t families make decisions for their own loved ones. The government fucked this whole thing up and now it wants end-of-life decision-making powers?
Fatherhood. Fatherless. Visitation. Child custody. Child Support. DCF. CPS. Judges. Children. Access/Visitation. Your tax dollars
Who’s paying attention?
Good News For 2-Mo Old Child Abuse Victim
Posted By: Kevin Rowson
On momslikeme.com, the baby’s mother expressed her concerns about her daughter’s well-being. Atlanta’s Momslikeme.com web site is owned and run by 11Alive’s parent company Gannett.
We are not identifying the mother or her daughter for their protection.
On June 9th the mother wrote: “Help me please my daughter is not even two months and she’s has already had little bruises on her arms and legs and back. Her daddy is really rough with her. And every time he picks her up she screams and don’t stop.”
“I’ve talked to him and told him if I seen one more bruise on her he’s gone and he’s doing much better with her, but she still screams, I still think he hurts her but I don’t see anything.”
But one day later the mother backed off the serious nature of her first post and wrote: “Well I think he’s just a little rough with her. There not like blue or black bruises but there little red ones. I know he’s not doing it on purpose.”
“Thanks for everything everybody I really appreciate it.”
The Carroll County Sheriff Office says Todd’s own mother questioned how her son treated his daughter, but said she never would have expected what allegedly happened.
On the same day the baby’s mother posted her concerns, she also entered her husband into a photo contest on the moms like me website. The baby’s mother posted a picture of Todd holding his baby daughter. The mother called him “The greatest dad ever.”
Sorry we can’t stomach the father rights agenda anymore….remember…
GOOD FATHERS DON’T KILL
GOOD FATHERS DON’T KILL
GOOD FATHERS DON’T KILL
GOOD FATHERS DON’T KILL
GOOD FATHERS DON’T KILL
GOOD FATHERS DON’T KILL
GOOD FATHERS DON’T KILL
GOOD FATHERS DON’T KILL
http://www.indystar.com/article/20090623/LOCAL0503/906230356/

MURDERER
BROWNSBURG, Ind. — In the last minutes of Father’s Day, police believe, a Brownsburg man violently stabbed his estranged wife to death.The couple’s two daughters, ages 8 and 12, slept with their mother as the attack began before midnight Sunday. The girls ran and escaped injury, police said.
“Daddy stabbed Mommy,” one of the girls said in a 911 call after her father left early Monday. They hid in a closet about 20 minutes, police said.
Joseph L. Warnock, 41, is charged with murder in the death of Angela A. Warnock, 38. He was arrested about 9 p.m. Monday north of Brownsburg and taken to Hendricks County Jail in Danville.
Detectives said Angela Warnock was stabbed many times. Sheriff’s Detective Sgt. Charles Morefield described injuries to her arms as “defensive wounds, like she tried to resist.”
“This looked like a crime of passion,” he said.
A judge had ordered Joseph Warnock to stay away from the family home in the 10400 block of Splendor Way in the Eagle Crossing subdivision, about a half-mile west of 56th Street and Raceway Road on the Hendricks-Marion county line.
Shortly before midnight, Warnock parked in a church lot about a quarter-mile from the home, walked through farm fields and broke in the patio door, investigators believe. He stabbed his wife with a steak knife, a weapon he apparently took to the house, detectives said.
Police and their dogs tracked Warnock to the church lot but didn’t find him during a search around Eagle Creek Park and nearby areas on the Northwestside of Indianapolis.
Sheriff’s officials said a caller reported seeing a man matching Warnock’s description sitting next to a utility box in the 10500 block of East County Road 600 North — about a quarter-mile from the Warnock home.
An off-duty officer working night security at Eagle Crossing arrested Warnock without incident, sheriff’s officials said.
“Our officers recognized him immediately,” Morefield said. “He just put his hands in the air and gave up.”
Warnock was shirtless and wearing shorts and tennis shoes. He was dirty and had light scratches on his body — the kind that might come from running through twigs, Morefield said.
Father’s Day Horror: Man Kills Himself and Daughter in Apparent Murder Suicide
It’s been a particularly bloody few days for Valley children. Loggan Lampert, 14, is bludgeoned to death by his uncle. A 2-year-old beaten with a belt buckle, allegedly by her mom’s boyfriend, dies. Another 2-year-old dies after being hit by a car in his trailer park. And now this:
A Valley father who went camping with his 3-year-old daughter in a remote area near the Grand Canyon apparently shot himself and the girl.
Family members were unable to make contact with Ryan Peters, 29, and began call police frantically, worried that Peters was suicidal after his recent divorce and loss of child custody to his ex-wife. A relative made mobile-phone contact with Peters, who said he was camping between Jacob Lake and the Canyon’s North Rim. A Coconino County deputy found the bodies early this morning.
See full text of news release by the Mesa police below:
Coconino County Sheriff’s Detectives Investigate the Deaths of a Father and his Daughter at Jacob Lake
Flagstaff, AZ- Coconino County Sheriff’s Deputies are investigating the death of 29 year-old Ryan Peters and his three year old daughter Teigan Peters, both from the Phoenix area. On June 22, 2009 at about 12:25 a.m. the deputy assigned to the Fredonia district located a campsite in the area of Parissawampitts Point off of Highway 67 that leads to the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. He observed the bodies of an adult male and a very young female, both with apparent gunshot wounds.
On Sunday June 21, 2009 at about 9:p.m. officers of the Mesa Police Department called the Coconino County Sheriff’s Office with an attempt to locate on Ryan Peters and his daughter. The Mesa Police Department was contacted by a relative of Ryan Peters who described him as despondent and possibly suicidal as the result of a recent divorce and the determination of the custody of his daughter.
Mr. Peters’ family members contacted the Mesa Police department on Sunday at about 5:30 p.m. with concern for the safety of Mr. Peters and his daughter Teigan. At the time of the initial report it was only known that he was camping however the location was unknown. During the course of the afternoon several family members were in cell phone contact with Mr. Peters and shared that information with the Mesa Police Department.
During their investigation Mesa Police Officers and Detectives learned that Ryan Peters’ ex-wife filed a custodial interference complaint with the Gilbert Police Department on June 19, 2009 when Mr. Peters failed to return Teigan to her mother as stipulated by a custody agreement.
At about 9:p.m. on Sunday a family member told Mesa Police Officers he had talked with Ryan and confirmed he was camping in an area between Jacob Lake and the North Rim of the Grand Canyon.
Coconino County Sheriff’s Detectives will continue the investigation of this apparent murder-suicide in an attempt to determine the events that lead to the deaths of Ryan and Teigan Peters.
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So don’t despair dear mamma, and get yourself ready to be acceptable before the Lord by picking up that Gospel of Grace and it is where your comfort lies at this time; for there isn’t anything more that the rest of us could say to you that could get you closer and quicker to your baby right now than this.
Begin with the Psalms and then check out Amos 3:7 & Matthew 24…
By so doing, God will be gently taking you by the hand and towards your precious little girl who will run to greet you again !!!
The hope of the God’s eternal LOVE that awaits us is what will keep you strong right now; and don’t let ANYTHING stand in the way of that, YOU HEAR ME ???
Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 23 2009 @ 12:48AM
So don’t despair dear mamma, and get yourself ready to be acceptable before the Lord by picking up that Gospel of Grace and it is where your comfort lies at this time; for there isn’t anything more that the rest of us could say to you that could get you closer and quicker to your baby right now than this.
Begin with the Psalms and then check out Amos 3:7 & Matthew 24…
By so doing, God will be gently taking you by the hand and towards your precious little girl who will run to greet you again !!!
The hope of the God’s eternal LOVE that awaits us is what will keep you strong right now; and don’t let ANYTHING stand in the way of that, YOU HEAR ME ???
Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 23 2009 @ 12:50AM
~I know your in heaven you beautiful little angel!Make sure to hold your mamma tight and lay with her as she knows your right there with her!
-Crystal and Hayle
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Do Lawyers, Judges, GAL’s or any other court appointed court whore think they really have no repercussion to their crimes? Apparently they thought that ALL the children they failed to protect and represent would never remember or ever grow up. Guess you thought wrong. So now all the children that are coming of age and whose lives are irretrievably changed forever…NOW they all will have their reckoning….and THIS is just the beginning. Sorry you didn’t steal all our laughter.


Marin Teen Files State Bar Complaint Against Court Appointed Lawyer
Misconduct Allegations Against Sandra Acevedo include Fraud, Perjury and Conspiring to Cover Up Child Abuser, Neglect and Endangerment
In what may be the first case of its kind, 18-year-old college honor student, Alanna Krause, formerly of San Geronimo, has filed a complaint with the California State Bar against attorney Sandra M. Acevedo, the lawyer appointed by then Marin Family Court Commissioner, Sylvia Shapiro-Pritchard, to represent her best interests during her parents’ divorce.
The complaint against Ms. Acevedo (State Bar # 129188), the court appointed attorney for the Minor Child in 1993-1994 in Marin County Superior Court case FL 4889, alleges that Ms. Sandra M. Acevedo conspired with Alanna’s father, Marshall Krause, his girlfriend, Lana Clark, LCSW, and others to:
1) commit fraud and illegally obtain money
2) delay, hinder and prevent evidence, testimony and prosecution
3) commit and suborn perjury
4) commit child abuse, neglect and endangerment
In 1994, Ms. Acevedo was appointed by Commissioner Sylvia K. Shapiro-Pritchard to represent Alanna’s “best interests” in Marin County California Superior Court case FL 4889 – the divorce/custody case of her parents, Marshall W. Krause v. Lauren Krause. Instead of representing her best interests, Alanna alleges that Ms. Acevedo knowingly and willfully colluded with her father, a nationally renowned attorney and past president of the Marin Bar Association, and his girlfriend, Lana Clark, to cover up Mr. Krause’s child abuse of her.
Throughout Family Court FL 4889 proceedings, Alanna, who has spoken nationally to conventions and conferences on the issue of Child Abuse, repeatedly told Ms. Acevedo about her father’s abuse and mistreatment of her and asked Ms. Acevedo directly to make these facts known to the court.
Records submitted to the State Bar show that Ms. Acevedo had extensive contact with Alanna teachers and doctors and attended Alanna’s meetings with Child Protective Services. Though Alanna told her teachers and CPS about her father’s abuse, apparently Ms. Acevedo misled them into believing that Alanna’s abuse was being handled by the court, when, in fact, Alanna alleges that Acevedo acted to keep the truth and the issue out of court.
Alanna claims that Ms. Acevedo threatened her mother and her when they tried to bring the truth to the court’s attention themselves. Acevedo supposedly repeatedly attempted to convince Alanna to stop trying to communicate these important facts about her father to the court. Alanna claims that Acevedo ignored medical records of Alanna’s injuries and perjured herself in declarations to the court.
Furthermore, Alanna alleges that Ms. Acevedo maintained intimate constant contact with her father’s girlfriend, Lana Clark, and intruded Clark’s fabrications and false opinions into the case, which heralded Mr. Krause, blamed Alanna’s mother, and undermined and destroyed Alanna’s credibility, despite the fact that she was a child with no motive other than her own safety. (Services for which Clark received approx. $15,000).
Ms. Acevedo billed nearly $17,000 for her services. Though the court clearly stated it did not have jurisdiction to legally assign Alanna’s mother’s family support to legal fees, Ms. Acevedo took payment from her mother’s family support anyway.
If Ms. Acevedo had done her job, Alanna alleges, the abuse would have been investigated, facts would have been brought into evidence, court rulings might have accorded with evidence, justice might have been done and she might not have had to endure years of her father’s abuse in his full custody. Because Ms. Acevedo willfully did not act in her best interests, Alanna claims to have suffered years of abuse, neglect and endangerment.
In September, 1997, at the age of thirteen, Alanna ran away from her father and Marin to Los Angeles where she sought and obtained protection, adequate legal representation and justice in Los Angeles Juvenile Court. In the hand of a capable attorney, the court was made aware of the abuse from the first hearing and chose to protect her from her father, in contrast to the results of Acevedo’s representation.
After several months of investigation, on January 12, 1998, the LA Department of Child and Family Services Investigation Report was adopted by Los Angeles Juvenile Court. On this day her father, Marshall Krause pled “No Contest” to WIC Section 300; subdivisions a) & b). The charges that he was a current and future danger to Alanna were sustained. Alanna was then made a Ward of the Court. Her Juvenile Court case stayed open for almost 18 months to protect her from the actions of the Marin Court and it’s appointees for as long as possible. In August 1999 she was placed in my mother’s full custody, where she always wanted to be.
Her attached editorial, “Letting Children Speak For themselves- Youth in Court Need Attorneys Who Represent their Interests Fairly, Strongly” published statewide in the Daily Journal in July, 2000, describes Ms. Acevedo’s failure to represent her best interests and the effect that failure had on events. Click.
Alanna sent numerous documents and supporting evidence of Ms. Acevedo’s alleged professional misconduct. She asked that the complaint should be cross referenced with the current State Bar investigation of her father, Marshall W. Krause, Esq. in State Bar case # 98-0-01507, which is being handled by Mr. Jeff Dal-Cerro, Assistant to the Chief Trial Counsel, and Ms. Lisa Edwards, CA State Bar Investigator. Click.
Alanna believes there is sufficient clear and convincing evidence for State Bar disciplinary action against Ms. Acevedo. Among the documentation submitted to the State Bar are copies of KCAL TV’s three part investigation “Crimes of Custody” which aired in LA in November 2000 which features Alanna and her mother; Alanna’s editorial, “Letting Children Speak for Themselves-Youth in Court Need Attorneys Who Represent Their Interests Fairly, Strongly”, published in the SF and LA Daily Journal in July 2000; Pertinent sections of “Findings on Judge Michael Dufficy, Commissioner Sylvia Shapiro & Court Appointees in Marin County’s Superior Court in California” by Karin Winner, published by The Justice Seekers, Inc. in February 2000; LA Children’s Social Worker’s Judicial Review Report and LA Juvenile Court rulings; A complete history of the several Krause v. Krause cases in Marin, Ventura and LA County courts with “Attachments” of supporting evidentiary documents as well as Ms. Acevedo’s itemized bills revealing the extent of her involvement and influence in Alanna’s case.
Good thing Obama Sr. didn’t want custody of his son…Obama Jr. might not have turned out as good as he did with the help of being raised by a SINGLE MOTHER?!

Barack Obama got a basketball, his first name and ambition from his father. Little else.
The son gave back more than he received: a lifetime of ruminations about the man who abandoned the family, a memoir named “Dreams from My Father,” and endless reflections on his own successes and shortcomings as a parent of Sasha, 8, and Malia, 10.
As a candidate and now president, he’s been telling men what sort of father they should be. It’s become his Father’s Day ritual.
He’s asking American men to be better fathers than his own.
The president showcased fatherhood in a series of events and a magazine article in advance of Father’s Day this Sunday. He said he came to understand the importance of fatherhood from its absence in his childhood homes — just as an estimated 24 million Americans today are growing up without a dad.
Fathers run deep in the political culture as they do everywhere else, for better and worse. Michelle Obama has said many times how her late dad, Fraser, is her reference point and rock — she checks in with him, in her mind, routinely, and at important moments.
Obama’s presidential rival, John McCain, called his own memoirs “Faith of My Fathers,” tracing generations of high-achieving scamps. The father-son presidencies of the George Bushes were bookends on Bill Clinton, whose father drowned in a ditch before the future president was born and whose stepfather was an abusive alcoholic nicknamed Dude.
A Kenyan goatherder-turned-intellectual who clawed his way to scholarships and Harvard, Barack Hussein Obama Sr. left a family behind to get his schooling in the United States. He started another family here, then left his second wife and 2-year-old Barack Jr. to return to Africa with another woman.
His promise flamed out in Africa after stints working for an oil company and the government; he fell into drink and died in a car crash when his son was 21, a student at Columbia University.
“I don’t want to be the kind of father I had,” the president is quoted as telling a friend in a new book about him.
And in an interview Friday with CBS News, Obama said: “It was only later in life that I found out that he actually led a very tragic life. And in that sense, it was the myth that I was chasing as opposed to knowing who he really was.”
His half-sister, Maya, called his memoirs “part of the process of excavating his father.”
Obama now cajoles men to be better fathers — not the kind who must be unearthed in the soul.
His finger-wagging is most pointed when addressing other black men, reflecting years of worry about the fabric of black families and single mothers, but it applies to everyone.
Father’s Day 2007: “Let’s admit to ourselves that there are a lot of men out there that need to stop acting like boys; who need to realize that responsibility does not end at conception; who need to know that what makes you a man is not the ability to have a child but the courage to raise a child.”
Father’s Day 2008: “Any fool can have a child. That doesn’t make you a father. It’s the courage to raise a child that makes you a father.”
Father’s Day 2009: “We need to step out of our own heads and tune in. We need to turn off the television and start talking with our kids, and listening to them, and understanding what’s going on in their lives.”
He doesn’t hold himself out as the ideal dad. No driven politician can.
“I know I have been an imperfect father,” he writes in Sunday’s Parade magazine. “I know I have made mistakes. I have lost count of all the times, over the years, when the demands of work have taken me from the duties of fatherhood.”
He volunteered for those demands, as all people do when they want power. His years as a community organizer, Illinois lawmaker, U.S. senator and presidential candidate often kept him apart from family.
At the same time, he went to great lengths in the 2008 campaign to find time with his girls and wife, and now considers the routine family time one of the joys of living and working in the White House.
The new book “Renegade” by Richard Wolffe recounts strains in the marriage early this decade, arising from his absences and from what Michelle Obama apparently considered his selfish careerism at the time. The author interviewed the Obamas, friends and associates.
Obama himself attributed his “fierce ambitions” to his dad while crediting his mother — a loving but frequently absent figure — with giving him the means to pursue them.
“Someone once said that every man is trying to either live up to his father’s expectations or make up for his father’s mistakes,” he once wrote, “and I suppose that may explain my particular malady as well as anything else.” By malady, he meant the will to achieve.
Obama was a schoolboy in Hawaii when his father came back to visit. He gave his dad a tie. His father gave him a basketball and African figurines and came to his class to speak about Kenya. He was an impressive, mysterious figure whom Obama found compelling, volatile and vaguely threatening.
The visit took a sour turn when Obama went to watch “How the Grinch Stole Christmas” and his father made him shut off the TV, saying he watched too much. Obama slammed the bedroom door; a loud argument ensued among grown-ups.
Not the quality time Obama has in mind in asking dads to turn off the TV now.
HE DOESN’T HIT HER
HE DOESN’T THREATEN HER
HE DOESN’T PUSH HER
HE DOESN’T HURT HER IN ANY WAY…..BUT IF HE DOES…..YOU BETTER WATCH OUT…BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW….
The news report below is encouraging….the comments that the ignorant made are disgusting, but this is how DV Survivors are treated.
Supreme Court sets new precedents in domestic violence
by Andrew Clevenger
It was big news last week when the state Supreme Court reversed and vacated Tonya Harden’s 2007 murder conviction. Harden, you will recall, killed her husband, Danuel Harden, with a shotgun he had used to beat and threaten her during what Justice Menis Ketchum described as a “night of domestic terror.”
(That’s Harden’s booking photo, from September 2004, on the right. Her two black eyes are obvious, but the puncture wound to her right forearm, bruising to her chest and arms and her fractured nose aren’t visible.)
By a 4-1 vote, with Chief Justice Brent Benjamin dissenting, the justices ruled that the physical and sexual assaults by Harden’s husband and his threats to kill her and their children informed her state of mind and were relevant to her claim of self-defense.
As Angie Rosser of the West Virginia Coalition Against Domestic Violence and the Associated Press’ Tim Huber have pointed out here and here, the 44-page opinion sets some new precedents in West Virginia law. It’s a pretty big deal when the Supreme Court issues new precedent, so the new syllabus points are worth repeating here:
–Where a defendant has asserted a plea of self-defense, evidence showing that the decedent had previously abused or threatened the life of the defendant is relevant evidence of the defendant’s state of mind at the time deadly force was used. In determining whether the circumstances formed a reasonable basis for the defendant to believe that he or she was at imminent risk of serious bodily injury or death at the hands of the decedent, the inquiry is two-fold. First, the defendant’s belief must be subjectively reasonable, which is to say that the defendant actually believed, based upon all the circumstances perceived by him or her at the time deadly force was used, that such force was necessary to prevent death or serious bodily injury. Second, the defendant’s belief must be objectively reasonable when considering all of the circumstances surrounding the defendant’s use of deadly force, which is to say that another person, similarly situated, could have reasonably formed the same belief. Our holding in Syllabus Point 6 of State v. McMillion, 104 W.Va. 1, 138 S.E. 732 (1927), is expressly overruled.
–Where it is determined that the defendant’s actions were not reasonably made in self-defense, evidence that the decedent had abused or threatened the life of the defendant is nonetheless relevant and may negate or tend to negate a necessary element of the offense(s) charged, such as malice or intent.
–An occupant who is, without provocation, attacked in his or her home, dwelling or place of temporary abode, by a co-occupant who also has a lawful right to be upon the premises, may invoke the law of self-defense and in such circumstances use deadly force, without retreating, where the occupant reasonably believes, and does believe, that he or she is at imminent risk of death or serious bodily injury. In determining whether the circumstances formed a reasonable basis for the occupant to believe that he or she was at imminent risk of death or serious bodily injury at the hands of the co-occupant, the inquiry is two-fold. First, the occupant’s belief must be subjectively reasonable, which is to say that the occupant actually believed, based upon all the circumstances perceived by him or her at the time deadly force was used, that such force was necessary to prevent death or serious bodily injury. Second, the occupant’s belief must be objectively reasonable when considering all of the circumstances surrounding the occupant’s use of deadly force, which is to say that another person, similarly situated, could have reasonably formed the same belief. Our decision in Syllabus Point 2, State v. Crawford, 66 W.Va. 114, 66 S.E. 110 (1909), is expressly overruled.
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- 1 Courtney { 06.17.09 at 10:15 am }
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Do you know what the opinion says? It says that this woman was justified in killing her husband in cold blood. That’s what it says. The DV advocates are rejoicing but if the genders had been reversed, they’d be singing a different tune. What this opinion does is give abused women an exception to the murder statute. They can lay in wait and kill their abusers. But if a man ever advances this defense, I have a feeling the outcome will be different. The cour has basically crafted an exception to the murder statute with this opinion, for abused women. But according to the language of the opinion, anyone in a situation where they felt they were in danger could put on this defense. However, the DV advocates consider it a victory for abused women. Now what’s wrong with this picture?
- 2 Courtney { 06.17.09 at 10:17 am }
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P.S. – for anyone who feels threatened in their own home, I meant.
- 3 Expatriate { 06.17.09 at 10:36 am }
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Courtney, clearly you know nothing about the psychology associated with being a battered woman or have been battered yourself, or you would not make such ignorant statements. And what I find most intriguing is that this sort of comment would come from a woman. How progressive of you! I have said for years that we women are our own worst enemies. Your comments are proof of that assertion.
- 4 Courtney { 06.17.09 at 10:53 am }
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Expatriate, I live with it for the five years of my marriage and for five more after that. And typical of women, you attack me personally for not agreeing with you. I too was trapped and it took me five long years to extract myself. And I can tell you that if there had been a gun in that house, one of us would be dead today. I thought myself about waiting until he passed out and killing him with a baseball bat, but I was afraid I’d just make him mad.
You have a lot of nerve to attack me because I am objective aboout this opinion. You think DV victims deserve an exception to the murder statute and the court agrees with you. So you are in the catbird seat. I disagree and you call me backward, ignorant and undermining. YOU girl are Exhibit A of what’s wrong with women.
Because I lived with a mentally ill (he was committed shortly after our divorce and has been in and out of mental insitutions since) violent drunk and because I worked myself free and am no living well, I might be actually harder on these women because I know it can be done. I also know that I wouldn’t kill the SOB because he was my children’s father (odly he was a very good and kindly father) and they would be left to the system if I were in prison. So I did what was best for them. I finished school, I left, I married well and was able to give them a good life.
(edited to remove objectionable language, personal attack)
- 5 Courtney { 06.17.09 at 10:58 am }
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P.S.
A defenseless man was shot and killed in his hospital bed by his estranged wife. Where are you rightous types and your candle light vigils? Maybe his wife will invoke this opinion by saying she was emotionally battered and had been threatened, and felt he would kill her.
Under the language of this opinion, she can advance self defense theory at trial.
The court regularly carves out exceptions to the law to benefit particular litigants. But with this case, they set new precedent. They said that with a “reasonable” fear, a victim of domestic violence could kill her spouse in cold blood.
Now you, are a little hypocrit. This opinion advocates vigilante justice and murder. Isn’t that what you’re against?
Those close to the investigation know a lot you don’t know, things that couldn’t come into trial and therefore, not in the appeal record. You dear, are the ignorant one.
- 6 Nature Boy { 06.17.09 at 11:19 am }
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Courtney, you are entitled to your opinion and I will not call you names for it. I do disagree with you. If you read Angie Rosser’s Op-Ed linked in at the beginning of this blog or you can cut and paste to your browser from here http://www.wvgazett e.com/Opinion/ OpEdCommentaries /200906120470 this is an important decision for victims of domestic violence. You explained that you were able to escape your circumstances of abuse and better your life, and for that you are both lucky and to be congratulated. But what of the next woman? The women like Harden? I do not understand domestic violence, and cannot for the life of me understand how a man could do what this man did to Mrs. Harden and their children. What I do know is that if someone were treating me like that or threatening my kids like that, I would hope that the law protected me and my right to protect my kids and myself. From reading the news and op-ed articles and the court decision about Mrs. Harden, it sounds like the law almost failed to protect her, because I do not see what she did as deserving prison time.
- 7 Courtney { 06.17.09 at 11:48 am }
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Nature Boy, Expatriate could learn a few lessons from you.
I will tell you why I’m disturbed by this opinion and the response of the DV advocates to it.
First of all, I believe the law is the law and as much as some people would like to, it shouldn’t be bent or distorted to accomodate sympathetic litigants.
Before this decision, the bar was fairly high for proving self defense. That is because you can’t have people going around and killing each other then screaming self defense. It’s not the Old West. Before Harden, a person had to be in imminent danger. That meant someone was actively trying to kill them and they defendend themselves.
In Harden, this woman waited until her husband was passed out drunk on the couch (the court glossed over this but it was established by investigators) then took a shotgun, put it behind his head and shot him, literally spraying the area with brain matter and moving his eyeball to his cheekbone.
The court has now removed the immenent danger element of self defense and replaced it with the subjectively reasonable standard. That means what is fear of death depends is fact based and in consideration of what a person PERCIEVES as the threat of death or bodily injury. They further carved out this murder exception for people who are co-habitating.
To people like Expatriate, violence is okay when someone has it coming as in Harden. That’s what the opinion really says if you read between the lines. These DV advocates claim to be against violence yet they are advocating violence by saying this opinion is a victory for battered women.
This opinion nor DV experts contemplate personal responsibility excpet to eliminate the duty to retreat, and as a former DV victim, I can tell you that simply being a victim should not exempt the victim from accountability.
When I was living the nightmare of domestic violence, my chief concern was my children. I did not want them growing up in such an environment. They kept me from killing their father. I also did not want to face them and explain why I murdered their dad and why they would be growing up with a dead father and imprisoned mother. So I was motivated to do the right thing by them.
Now I’m free. I raised them in a good environement and educated them both. They had trips and good clothes and a nice house and cars on their sixteenth birthdays (I actually overcompensated I think) none of which they would have had if I’d been in prison. But if this opinion had been out and I knew about it and I had in fact kept a gun, things might have been different.
We shall agree to disagree. Then see how this opinion plays out in the court system if a man tries to raise it as a defense.
- 8 Courtney { 06.17.09 at 12:13 pm }
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Another P.S. I’ve had a down morning but that’s over so I won’t be able to follow up to the attacks from people like Expatriate who think that because they are righteous in their beliefs they can personally attack those who don’t agree with them.
The Harden opinion removed very important deterrent elements from domestic violence situations. Rather than promoting women to flee a home of violence and take some sort of responsibility for a potentially deadly situation, it tells them they can skip divorce court and go straight for the shotgun.
That’s a fact and the DV advocates need to own up to the subtlties and implications of this decisions. If the goal is to get women out of abusive sitations then this opinion is a set back.
Last week a woman, estranged from her husband, shot and killed him while he lay helpless in the ICU of the hospital. Clearly that man had a reason to fear for his life. Under Harden, he could have killed the wife before she killed him – that what Harden says, “wait ’till he’s asleep and kill him before he kills you.”
But then you can imagine how that would have gone over with the myopic jerk knee advocates.
In the past two weeks, two men in Charleson have been killed by wives or estranged wives. Watching how their deaths have played out in the media is a prime example of why the system is flawed. As an objective person who believes in seeing both sides of every story, I find it disturbing. But by doing so, I am an enemy of women according to people like Expatriate.
I’ve said my piece.
- 9 Previously Bruised & Battered { 06.17.09 at 1:03 pm }
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I for one am just as excited about this change in precedent as the DV Advocates. The law has not exactly stood behind victims of domestic violence, on the contrary, a lot of times, it forces them to be in the situation.
I have personally experienced this…. 5 years ago, as I stood, crying, beaten, bloody and bruised from face to feet, I had a police officer tell me that my beating (with my baby in my arms) was MY FAULT, because I let my abuser come home. It did not matter that after he left, and I changed the locks so he could not come back, that same police department told me I HAD to let him come home, because his name was on the lease too. I was also told I could not have him removed from the lease without his permission. This same police officer threatened to arrest me if I decided to file charges against my abuser, because I defended myself, and he had a BITE MARK. I did not file charges because I had children that needed me to be at home with them. I did file for an order of protection, and was granted one, but only after my abuser was given the right to stay in our apartment, and myself and our children were forced to leave (I was from here, he was not, so the judge determined that I could stay with relatives) with only a few personal belongings that my abuser chose to let me take (while a police officer watched).
To make a VERY long story short… I can understand why women choose to kill their abusers… why not kill them instead of continue to be abused by them, or you can try to take the legal route and be abused all over again. I somehow managed to get back on my feet and me and my children now have a good life… Do I wish that I would have killed him… yes, sometimes I think it would have been easier than dealing with the 2 years of legal hell I had to endure trying to fight (in court) the man who tried to kill me in front of my children.
Am I saying this is always the case? No. But it happens. Courtney, you call victims of domestic violence sympathetic litigants… I see them for what they are…. VICTIMS. It does not matter their gender, if someone is abused, beaten or killed by their significant other, they are a victim. I am happy that you made it out of your situation… you were fortunate. Perhaps you should attend one of the candlelight vigils (there are plenty) that are held all over the US in October as a remembrance to those who have lost their lives to domestic violence (my great-grandmother was one)…. it may change your perspective.
- 10 J { 06.17.09 at 1:37 pm }
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Really, cut the BS. The woman could have left while he was passed out. Instead, she chose to get a gun and shoot him while he couldn’t defend himself. To say that she’s justified is to condone vigilante justice.
DV advocates ignore the fact that it’s not always one sided. Rather than empowering women, teaching them that they’re equals with men, and promoting non-violence, these organizations have devolved in to the most base of gender-hate clubs, and now it’s apparent that they cheer outright murder.
- 11 Dawn Miller { 06.17.09 at 2:08 pm }
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Thanks, all, for commenting. Just a reminder of the rules:
Disagree all you want, but no personal attacks, please. Thanks to Nature Boy for pulling the discussion back on topic.
UPDATE
Pedro Enrique Rosabal, the poor dear suffered something terrible from those ubiquitous “marital problems”–which naturally justifies why he picked up his kids at school, taunted the mother by calling her on the phone and telling her he was going to kill them, and then doing so. (When will the press finally stop referring to scumbags who torture and kill their families as having “marital problems”? Wrong! Innocent women and children have problems with violent scumbags.)
To ALL people that believe that mothers commit more violence and murder I challenge you to a 30 day countdown. Even though since January of 2009 there have been numerous murders of women and children from their estranged fathers versus mothers……we will start…..NOW.

Father suspected of killing 2 children in Houston
3 hours ago
HOUSTON (AP) — A father was suspected of shooting and killing his two children on Tuesday and then turning the gun on himself in an apparent attempted suicide, police said.
Police had been looking for the 8-year-old girl and her 6-year-old brother after their mother reported to authorities that “her estranged husband had called saying he had picked the kids up from the school and planned to drive them to an unknown location and kill them,” spokesman John Cannon said.
A short time later, officers were called to an apartment complex in southwest Houston after a resident and a maintenance worker became concerned when they saw two children and a man in a car with its engine on.
The children were found shot and pronounced dead on the scene. A .380-caliber pistol was found in the car.
“All evidence indicates the suspect shot the kids while inside the car at the apartment complex parking lot and turned the gun on himself,” Cannon said.
The 33-year-old man was transported in critical condition to Ben Taub General Hospital with a gunshot wound to the head.
Cannon said the names of the children would be released by the Harris County medical examiner’s office. He did not release the father’s identity.
Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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